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Fw: Converting the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type government



Forwarded. Some thoughts on the
subject from MGen Childers, USA
(Ret'd).

Semper fi,
Don Greenlaw
----- Original Message ----- From: ranger681@comcast.net
To: Don Greenlaw
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Converting the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type government


Don

Thanks for the info on Bilderbergers and CFR and TC. I have read on them before and I don't like how they do business as their primary intermediate goal is to continue to build a base of power and control as much of society as they can from behind the curtins.



I read from the site provided by the author of the book mentioned and I cut and paste here:

According to a variety of sources, the following presidential candidates are either members of one of the groups or have strong ties: Hillary Rodham Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, John McCain, John Edwards, Fred Thompson, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson.

Mike Huckabee, though not a member, spoke to the CFR in September. Since then, his political star has risen to the point that he has become a top-tier candidate.

So often throughout recent history it has been the case.

Ever since Democrat Adlai Stevenson challenged Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956, the odds have significantly favored those with membership in the elite groups.

In 1960, both John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon were members.

In 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson was not a member. Neither was his opponent, Barry Goldwater. But Johnson had already staffed his administration with plenty of insiders.

In 1968, it was Nixon versus club member Hubert H. Humphrey.

In 1972, it was Nixon again against Democratic Party CFR member George McGovern.

In 1976, it was CFR Republican Gerald Ford losing to CFR Democrat Jimmy Carter.

In 1980, Ronald Reagan was not a member, but his running mate, George H.W. Bush, was. So were both of his opponents â Carter and independent John Anderson. Assuming office, however, Reagan quickly named 313 CFR members to his team.

In 1984, another CFR member, Walter Mondale, was nominated by the Democratic Party to challenge Reagan.

In 1988, CFR member Bush took on CFR member Michael Dukakis.

In 1992, Bush was challenged by an obscure governor from Arkansas, Bill Clinton, who won the âtrifectaâ by being a member of the CFR, Trlateral Commission and Bilderberg Group. He was also a Rhodes scholar â another favored credential of the worldwide elite.

In 1996, Clinton was challenged by CFR member Bob Dole.

In 2000, CFR member Al Gore ran against non-member George W. Bush, but his running mate, Dick Cheney, was.

In 2004, Bush was challenged by CFR member John Kerry.



I must say that the author is not making a strong case that CFR is in control of Presidential wins as there are so many cases where a non member won the Presidency. So, I don't know how much faith to put in his theory. There are many good people (bill gates, Fred Thompson, etc) who are members and there are some slimeballs (Arafat, Soros, etc)


Thanks again


Carroll D. Childers P.E.
Consultant (540) 842-4937
Maj Gen (Ret)
"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest America become bankrupt. People must again learn to work,instead of living on public assistance." Author unknown but I like it





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From: "Don Greenlaw" <dgreenlaw@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 1:28:28 PM
Subject: Fw: Converting the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type government

Forwarded. More food for thought.

Semper fi,
Don Greenlaw
----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Boice
To: bobuda@roadrunner.com ; vaughnbecht@yahoo.com ; dgreenlaw@cox.net
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 9:41 AM
Subject: Fw: Converting the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type
government


     This says it all.

     --- On Sun, 1/8/12, stopxspp <stopxspp@gmail.com> wrote:


       From: stopxspp <stopxspp@gmail.com>
       Subject: Converting the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type
government
       To:
       Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 10:05 AM




       Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:57 AM
       Subject: Converting the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type
government


       I have long maintained the notion that we do not have a 2 party
system in the USA.
       It is really one party -- the CFR with 2 disguises called Democrats
and Republicans.

       It is nothing more than a left hand and a right hand of the same
monster!  It is a puppet show!

       The CFR present this veil to make us believe that we can achieve a
better government the next time we vote for the opposition.

       It is all a faÃade!  It is a magicians trick!

       I noticed that by following the trends of how we have a flip-flop of
both âparties sharingâ 4 years of control of the Presidency and Congress.



       Now you know why presidential candidates such as Ron Paul and M.
Bachman have no chance in making it.  The mainstream media has been
controlled by the CFR and will do everything possible to maintain their
power grip on this country.  We will never have a âWe the Peopleâ government
unless we get to vote for candidates not controlled by the CFR.   You will
notice that our freedoms have been restricted almost daily with new laws
designed to control us.  The noose is tightening slowly.



       We need to vote for candidates that are not CFR controlled!



       This is not a figment of my imagination.  Yes, we do have an ongoing
conspiracy to convert the USA to a SOCIALIST / COLLECTIVIST type government.



       I came across this article written in 2007 which presents clearly my
arguments chronologically.



       http://www.wnd.com/2007/11/44290/



       Read and be informed â you are not a Democrat or Republican!  You
are a CFR voter if you vote blindly for candidates selected by the Democrat
or Republican party.  The CFR will manipulate the publicâs opinion through
the control of the mainstream media.  It has been doing it for many years.



       There is no pefect candidate, but we must vote for a non-CFR.   Ron
Paul is not a CFR member.



       Saul




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