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• Reinstate 7411, Padilla [3 Updates]
• Leaving the scene on an accident [15 Updates]
• HYTA, who has authority to approve early release [3 Updates]
• Improper lane use [5 Updates]
• Frank Murphy psi? [6 Updates]
• IL resident subject to standard MI interlock order after superdrunk? [2 Updates]
• Clinical Relief Case Dismissed [12 Updates]
• Referral opportunity for school expulsion appeal [6 Updates]
• Livingston Plea [2 Updates]
• Lone Ranger Reference. [21 Updates]
• Animal cruelty and civil forfeiture need help [3 Updates]
• Traffic case in Livingston County [3 Updates]
• Acquittal in Dispensary-Register to Vote case [2 Updates]
• Expungement question [4 Updates]
• Appeal question [5 Updates]
• OFF TOPIC - HUMOR -Fw: Police Stop...... [1 Update]
• Cross Exam of Toxicologist Rachel Perez [1 Update]
• US Supreme Court refuses to hear gun-medical marijuana case [1 Update]
• Oakland sheriff's office moves to fire deputy in DUI case | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com [1 Update]
• Off Topic: 14 Apps for Smart Phone or Tablet [1 Update]

 Reinstate 7411, Padilla

"Barton W. Morris, Jr." <barton@michigancriminalattorney.com> Jan 12 05:17AM -0500  

I have a client who is facing imminent deportation due to a 2005 felony drug conviction for which 7411 was revoked. Is there any authority for the judge (Alexander) to reinstate the 7411?
...more

Jim Amberg <jamberg@amberglaw.net> Jan 12 07:36AM -0500  

Bart, attached is a padilla I won. It was my understanding that receipt
of 7411 status may not stop a deportation from happening, although it
appears that it delayed it in your case. ...more

"Law Office of Sandra Girard PLLC" <slbgirard@gmail.com> Jan 12 07:48AM -0500  

It doesn't matter for immigration purposes if he does reinstate it. ICE
still considers it a conviction.
 
Sandy
 
 
LAW OFFICE OF SANDRA GIRARD PLLC
P.O. Box 1069
Jackson, MI 49204 ...more

 Leaving the scene on an accident

Nikki Gmail <nicolletes@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:49PM -0500  

I have a client who was cut off last weekend and ended up hitting a soft shoulder and flipped his truck. He was not drinking but it was late. He was ok so he called and had us mom pick him up. ...more

"Chris Thompson" <chris@milegalresearch.com> Jan 11 08:33PM -0500  

Officers have no right to hold the vehicle and you'll have to remind them of
that fact - possibly multiple times. Your job is easier if the truck is in
a spouse's or company nam as whoever has an ...more

Nikki <nicolletes@gmail.com> Jan 11 09:09PM -0500  

Clients a college student. The car is in his name.
 
Nicole
 
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scott@mielcarr.com Jan 12 02:16AM  

Why not go in and request release and state that he doesn't want to answer questions until he speaks with his lawyer. Two birds, one stone.
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"Nicole L. Smith" <nicolelsmith@forrestlawfirm.com> Jan 11 09:25PM -0500  

I've spoken to the officer and requested release. He stated he would not allow the release until he comes in. The officer said my client committed a crime and therefore would not release the truck. ...more

scott@mielcarr.com Jan 12 02:29AM  

Judges don't understand the 5th and 6th amendments sometimes; why would a law enforcement officer. I learned that lesson the hard way.
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"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 02:34AM  

Speak to someone in command. If that does not work contact the City Attorney. This is not evidence of a crime and thus cannot be impounded. Must be turnwd over to the owner.
Mike Steinberg ...more

"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 02:35AM  

Speak to someone in command. If that does not work contact the City Attorney. This is not evidence of a crime and thus cannot be impounded. Must be turnwd over to the owner.
Mike Steinberg ...more

Todd Barron <tlbarron@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:01PM -0800  

Agree with the prior statements. They can't rightfully hold the
vehicle, and I would give a call to the Township attorney and tell
them they are about to be served with a Claim and Delivery action ...more

scott@mielcarr.com Jan 12 03:13AM  

Doesn't the police department have to release the vehicle to someone that will accept the release. A person authorized by the owner if not the owner himself. Basically to protect the PD from ...more

"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 03:54AM  

Scott
 
If the car becomes undriveable than the insurance company has control over it. That happened to my car (later deemed totaled). The insurance co had total control where the car would go. ...more

"Michael J. Nichols" <mnichols@nicholslaw.net> Jan 12 06:11AM -0500  

Send a demand letter to the chief of police and copy the prosecuting official. Give them 3 days to release the truck or you will take any and all legal action. That would be a circuit court complaint ...more

Allen Peisner <aquadetroit@yahoo.com> Jan 12 03:17AM -0800  

I would file a claim and delivery action in the district court if the value of the vehicle was under $25,000.00.   I would file a motion for possession with the complaint.  See forms at this ...more

"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 11:29AM  

Way unnecessary. I stand by my earlier statement. A call to command or the City Attorney should resolve this problem.
Mike Steinberg
248-321-1801
24/7/365
 
Check out my website ...more

Allen Peisner <aquadetroit@yahoo.com> Jan 12 03:40AM -0800  

If the phone calls fail to resolve the problem, that is the route I would take.  I agree a phone call is easier and quicker if it works.
AP
 
 
 
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 HYTA, who has authority to approve early release

James Lawrence <ynot@earthlink.net> Jan 11 08:24PM -0500  

Client serving at Thumb Correctional Facility on a HYTA drug case, sentenced by Judge Thomas Jackson. He was advised by a counselor at the prison that the trial court has the authority to let him go ...more

"Law Office of Sandra Girard PLLC" <slbgirard@gmail.com> Jan 11 09:04PM -0500  

See the MDOC policy directive 02.02.120 at
http://www.michigan.gov/corrections/0,1607,7-119-1441_44369---,00.html. It
cites MCL 762.11 et seq and MCL 91.204 for authority.
 
Sandy
 
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Russ Donelson <russ.donelson@donelsonlaw.com> Jan 11 11:00PM -0500  

what county...was able to get it in front of Chylinski in Wayne... in trial
tomorrow contact after Friday if you want to talk
 
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Law Office of Sandra Girard PLLC < ...more

 Improper lane use

matthew norwood <attorneynorwood@gmail.com> Jan 11 09:02PM -0500  

Lady pulled over for driving in the left hand lane while driving down I-69
near Charlotte. (Cars had to pass her on the right hand side) I looked at
the statute and the MSP website on frequently ...more

scott@mielcarr.com Jan 12 02:15AM  

There is a case that says that this is not a reason for PC to stop where there is a multiple lane road. Drivers are entitled to use all lanes of the road in a proper manner regardless of whether it ...more

Todd Barron <tlbarron@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:14PM -0800  

Did you look at 257.634?
 
 
 
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"Thomas M. Loeb" <tmloeb@mich.com> Jan 11 10:42PM -0500  

There is a statute prohibiting driving in the left lane when there are only two lanes on the driver's side of the road...
-Tom
Thomas M. Loeb
32000 Northwestern Hwy ste 170
Farmington Hills, Mi ...more

matthew norwood <attorneynorwood@gmail.com> Jan 11 10:55PM -0500  

Thanks Scott, if you happen to come across the case let me know, I'll check
for it tomorrow.
Tom: That is the problem that I have seen, it was a 2 lane and she was in
the left hand. ...more

 Frank Murphy psi?

Jim Amberg <jamberg@amberglaw.net> Jan 11 07:54PM -0500  

Wherest do I go to pick up a psi for a case before judge skutt? Thanks as always for the help!
Jim Amberg
 
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charlotte steffen-ramirez <csteffenramirez@yahoo.com> Jan 11 05:10PM -0800  

Wouldn't you go to the judge's courtroom?  Or better yet, call ahead to make sure it's there.
 
From: Jim Amberg <jamberg@amberglaw.net>
To: darrow@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, ...more

Jim Amberg <jamberg@amberglaw.net> Jan 11 08:25PM -0500  

Charlotte, I rarely go to frank murphy and every time I do, I always forget how it works. I was just gonna go down to judge skutt's, but I always feel like every time I go to frank Murphy, I always ...more

"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 01:28AM  

I used to feel that way after Grateful Dead concerts. Good thing I mended my ways.
Mike Steinberg
248-321-1801
24/7/365
 
Check out my website
www.mikesteinberglaw.com
 
Sent from my Verizon ...more

charlotte steffen-ramirez <csteffenramirez@yahoo.com> Jan 11 05:40PM -0800  

I know what you mean I'm a regular but I often feel that way too.  I didn't mean to be flippant I just thought maybe I was missing something.  It used to be that they would get the PSI about 1 day ...more

"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 10:43PM -0500  

Skutts court.
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 IL resident subject to standard MI interlock order after superdrunk?

"gmw" <wilson@wilsoncain.com> Jan 11 04:35PM -0500  

Assuming that she doesn't want to drive in Michigan, and that she has
already retained IL counsel to shepherd her through their hideous process
for OWI offenses, what happens if she ignores this? ...more

John Talpos <jtalpos@yahoo.com> Jan 11 06:48PM -0800  

Nothing other than possible contempt of court if it is made part of the sentence. Michigan Judge can't take license but could give client longer jail sentence to make up for it.
 
John C. Talpos
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 Clinical Relief Case Dismissed

Neil Rockind <neil@rockindpc.com> Jan 11 04:08PM -0500  

In a ruling that just occurred, Judge Obrien granted a defense motion to dismiss dismissing the charges against all defendants. Congratulations to my co-counsel, Tom Loeb, Steve Fishman, Cheryl ...more

Josh Blanchard <josh@mielcarr.com> Jan 11 04:25PM -0500  

That's fantastic news. What was the basis for the ruling?
 
-Josh
 
> abide by the list's privacy and confidentiality requirements.
 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to ...more

Cheryl Carpenter <carpentercheryl@hotmail.com> Jan 11 04:30PM -0500  

Don't forget Stuart Friedman who wrote the kick ass brief to dismiss or in the alternative entrapment by estoppel. The oral arguments were excellent and it was a pleasure watching Neil, Tom and Steve ...more

"gmw" <wilson@wilsoncain.com> Jan 11 04:35PM -0500  

Which case, Neil? Way to go all!!
 
 
GARY M. WILSON, ESQ.
Wilson & Cain, P.A.
18404 Mack Avenue
Grosse Pointe Farms, Michigan 48236
(313) 886-5600
(313) 886-5604 fax
wilson@wilsoncain.com ...more

"Mary Hickey" <MSHickey@Comcast.net> Jan 11 04:46PM -0500  

Congratulations to you all, or behalf of us all.
 
Mary
 
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Neil Rockind
Sent: Wednesday, ...more

Neil Rockind <neil@rockindpc.com> Jan 11 04:46PM -0500  

The case in which Bouchard talked about guard alligators.
 
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Alvin Sallen <asallen994@aol.com> Jan 11 04:59PM -0500  

Excellent Alvin
 
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"gmw" <wilson@wilsoncain.com> Jan 11 05:04PM -0500  

If the brief has not yet been shared, can you please post it? I have one
coming up.
 

 

 
GARY M. WILSON, ESQ.
 
Wilson & Cain, P.A.
 
18404 Mack Avenue
 
Grosse Pointe Farms, Michigan ...more

"Thomas M Loeb" <tmloeb@mich.com> Jan 11 05:36PM -0500  

This was the clinical relief dispensary case, out of Ferndale. Jessica
Cooper and Sheriff Bouchard had a press conference where Bouchard complained
about the guard alligators...
-Tom
 
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Hvbrfcaswiltravl@aol.com Jan 11 05:42PM -0500  

If they appeal, I hope you will make the transcript available for us to
read. Congratulations. The prosecutor did have a chance with that dream team
(to borrow a phrase) at the defense table. ...more

Hvbrfcaswiltravl@aol.com Jan 11 05:43PM -0500  

I'm sorry about clogging the Darrow forum with a correction but I thought
it needed to be made.

In a message dated 1/11/2012 5:42:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Hvbrfcaswiltravl@aol.com ...more

"Mary Chartier" <mary@alanechartier.com> Jan 11 09:42PM -0500  

That's huge!!!!!! Terrific work!
 
 
Mary Chartier
Attorney & Mediator
Alane & Chartier, P.L.C.
403 Seymour Avenue
Lansing, MI 48933
Phone: 517.482.2000
Fax: 517.482.2070 ...more

 Referral opportunity for school expulsion appeal

Glenn Simmington <gsimmington@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:25AM -0500  

Hey, all o' ya all -
 
Looking for names/possible referral candidates for a private school
expulsion appeal matter that I believe to be in SE MIchigan, possibly in
Bloomfield Hills area ...more

John Shea <jashea10@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:29AM -0500  

Nick Roumel in ann arbor does some work in this area.
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Glenn Simmington <gsimmington@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:49AM -0500  

Thanks, much, John.
 
Glenn
 
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"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 12:30AM  

Christine Piatkowski specializes in this area of law. piatkowski.law@chartermi.net
Mike Steinberg
248-321-1801
24/7/365
 
Check out my website
www.mikesteinberglaw.com
 
Sent from my Verizon ...more

"Mike Steinberg" <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 12 12:51AM  

Christine Piatkowski specializes in this area of law. piatkowski.law@chartermi.net
Mike Steinberg
248-321-1801
24/7/365
 
Check out my website
www.mikesteinberglaw.com
 
Sent from my Verizon ...more

Glenn Simmington <gsimmington@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:52PM -0500  

Thanks, Mike. Don’t think I know her, but I did graduate from Wayne with a
Dave Piatkowski (at least I think the spelling is the same – long time ago).
 
 
 
Regardless, I’ll pass her name ...more

 Livingston Plea

toby white <tobywhitelaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 04:22PM -0500  

Right before or after Christmas, two men were sentenced by Judge Hatte --
the charges were reduced from PWID's to misdemeanors. Does any one
know if these were "Operation Hemp" cases? The ...more

Hank Greenwood <attorneyforaccused@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:38PM -0500  

Toby,
 
Is this what you're looking for?
 
http://www.livingstondaily.com/article/20111216/NEWS01/112160320/Medical-pot-caregivers-sentenced-probation-possessing-drug
 
Hank
 
On Jan 11, 2012, at ...more

 Lone Ranger Reference.

Josh Blanchard <josh@mielcarr.com> Jan 11 08:06AM -0500  

Does anyone older than me understand the reference to the Lone Ranger
in this transcript. I guess I just don't get it. This is in response
to a request to file a 24 page brief.
 
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John Shea <jashea10@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:10AM -0500  

The lone ranger didn't have to follow no stinkin rules.
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Belinda Barbier <belindabarbier@yahoo.com> Jan 11 08:56AM -0500  

You're not super special and one of a kind who can conquer all. Not a hero or one man army.
 
Belinda Barbier
231-286-9545
Sent from my iPhone
 
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"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:58AM -0500  

Hey t his is a good lawyer you're talking about
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"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:59AM -0500  

so what if you cannot ride a horse
On Jan 11, 2012 8:58 AM, "David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
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"Keeley Heath" <keeley@mielcarr.com> Jan 11 01:59PM  

Yeah, it was said to me! :)
 
-Keeley
 
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"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 09:01AM -0500  

the truth of the matter is , silver knows the rules of evidence
On Jan 11, 2012 8:59 AM, "David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
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"Mary Hickey" <MSHickey@Comcast.net> Jan 11 09:07AM -0500  

Actually, I think the judge means that the attorney is not the only person
who runs long, in other words, you're not the lone ranger. People like me --
and, apparently, Bart Firth -- use this ...more

"Keeley Heath" <keeley@mielcarr.com> Jan 11 02:10PM  

Well, Mary, I think he called YOU the lone ranger, since you wrote the brief. :)
-Keeley
 
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Josh Blanchard <josh@mielcarr.com> Jan 11 09:13AM -0500  

Wait a second, Roach, check out my Facebook profile picture -- I can too
ride a horse.
 
The Judge said it to Keeley. I believe what he was getting at was that she
is not the Lone Ranger, she's ...more

"Mary Hickey" <MSHickey@Comcast.net> Jan 11 09:35AM -0500  

Hmmm. And I've always considered myself such a singular person.
Disappointing to find out that I' NOT the Lone Ranger.
 
Mary
 
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Michele Kelly <michele@kellykellylaw.com> Jan 11 09:41AM -0500  

The Lone Ranger was a radio show and later a television show that featured the good guy ranger and his best friend Tonto the indian.
He was kinda of a renegade law enforcement.
The horse was Silver ...more

"Keeley Heath" <keeley@mielcarr.com> Jan 11 02:50PM  

Josh:
 
Since Tonto means "wild one" in Potowatomie, your description may be accurate.
 
And I have historically been your faithful friend, always there to help get you out of the crazy messes you ...more

"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 09:58AM -0500  

Trigger was stuffed...not Silver.
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"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 09:59AM -0500  

Tonto means stupid according to mike courtney. But enough or Wilson will
pipe in. On Scout!
On Jan 11, 2012 9:58 AM, "David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
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Allen Peisner <aquadetroit@yahoo.com> Jan 11 07:06AM -0800  

The lone ranger fired silver bullets from his .45 Colt Revolver.  So if he shot someone, he did it with class and style (and 1/3 troy ounce of Ag).  The judge may have been suggesting that lawyer ...more

"D. Todd Diederich" <todd@todddiederich.com> Jan 11 10:05AM -0500  

Its what happens when you have an "escort" ...."Hi, Ho, silver away"...money back then used to be made with real silver....
 
 
 
 
Law Offices of D. Todd Diederich, PC
655 N. First St. - PO BOX 727 ...more

"Thomas M Loeb" <tmloeb@mich.com> Jan 11 11:32AM -0500  

Actually, those were the banditos in the Treasure of the Sierra Madre, and
it was stinkin badges they did not need.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges

Tom (wishing there were more ...more

Barry Poulson <barryfpoulson@gmail.com> Jan 11 06:40PM -0500  

I think the judge meant that you are not the Lone Ranger; you can ask for
leave to exceed.
 
I remember well the annual showing of the one-hour "Origin of the Lone
Ranger," with the attack by ...more

"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:34PM -0500  

But, old man, what became of the Ranger's nephew and HIS descendants? Eh,
boychik?
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"David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 07:37PM -0500  

Clue? Kato?
On Jan 11, 2012 7:34 PM, "David B. Rosenberg" <rosenbergdetroitlaw@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
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 Animal cruelty and civil forfeiture need help

Russ Donelson <russ.donelson@donelsonlaw.com> Jan 11 03:58PM -0500  

Greetings all,
 
 
Have client (owner of two horses) that is going to be charged with a one
year misdemeanor animal cruelty crime based upon Humane Society
Investigation in Washtenaw County. ...more

Steven Shelton <sshelton@sheltonlegal.net> Jan 11 04:10PM -0500  

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David Lady <dladylaw@yahoo.com> Jan 11 03:14PM -0800  

My partner, Mike Dungan, has considerable experience in this area. He represented Henderson, I'm in Washtenaw often[was a prosecutor there for twenty years] Never heard of Jon Emmons-must be pretty ...more

 Traffic case in Livingston County

Steven Shelton <sshelton@sheltonlegal.net> Jan 11 04:18PM -0500  

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Client picked up a speeding ticket from a deputy in Livingston County.
Paying me to represent him at the formal hearing. He doesn't have a ...more

Aaron Boria <borialaw@gmail.com> Jan 11 05:02PM -0500  

My guess is they won't offer you a thing in order to punish your client for
hiring an attorney. Foster will back me up on this.
 
Be prepared to hold the hearing and review the Ferency case.
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David Lady <dladylaw@yahoo.com> Jan 11 03:08PM -0800  

If you have a hearing, they will probably run it up to the 15 over. I don't go to Livingston often, but I know how prosecutors think.
 
 
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From: Aaron Boria ...more

 Acquittal in Dispensary-Register to Vote case

Mike Steinberg <mykoesq@aol.com> Jan 11 05:23PM -0500  

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20120111/NEWS01/201110328/Lansing-marijuana-dispensary-owner-acquitted
 
 
Mike Steinberg
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Mary Chartier <mary@alanechartier.com> Jan 11 05:28PM -0500  

This case was won by Matt Newburg. Nice to see he handed the AG a big loss!
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Expungement question

Tim Holloway <tim_holloway2@att.net> Jan 11 07:33AM -0800  

I wonder if there is any case law in other contexts regarding the counting of
years or determining age that would be applicable. I also know there is a
statute that references the counting of ...more

Allen Peisner <aquadetroit@yahoo.com> Jan 11 07:44AM -0800  

 Neither Hirsbrunner's client.   Not sure about the facts of Carpenter's client to venture a guess.
 
MCL 8.6    Statutes and rules; time; computation.
 
 
Sec. 6. This section applies to ...more

Allen Peisner <aquadetroit@yahoo.com> Jan 11 07:45AM -0800  

Neither help Hirsbrunner's client.  Not sure why the word help disappeared when I sent this before.  Maybe the lone ranger shot it out of the sentence.
 
 
 
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Tim Holloway <tim_holloway2@att.net> Jan 11 08:29AM -0800  

Yes, I don't think the time computation statute/rule helps . . . but it seems
like if one stumbled around digests or perhaps related statutes, one might find
something that does address some of ...more

 Appeal question

"nick vendittelli" <njvendi@comcast.net> Jan 11 12:27PM  

There is a case out there that the prosecutor's like to use that says on remand the trial court does not have jurisdiction to grant new trial or resentencing merely to hold hearing and make findings ...more

"nick vendittelli" <njvendi@comcast.net> Jan 11 12:28PM  

Its a MSC case.
nick
 
[from the phone booth on the corner]
 
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Sender: darrow@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, 10 Jan ...more

Tim Holloway <tim_holloway2@att.net> Jan 11 07:10AM -0800  

If either of you find the cite, please post it. It seems like John Minock may
have had to deal with something like this in the recent past.
 
 
Tim Holloway
 
 
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Nick Vendittelli <njvendi@comcast.net> Jan 11 03:59PM  

In my case it was used in a COA case from 2009 in People v. Lamar Ray Jones (file in storage). After remand and a long evidentiary hearing the trial court granted a motion for new trial based on IAC. ...more

Tim Holloway <tim_holloway2@att.net> Jan 11 08:22AM -0800  

Here is Nick's opinion in the COA. Interesting.
 

http://coa.courts.mi.gov/documents/opinions/final/coa/20100325_c284884_90_284884.opn.pdf

 
Tim Holloway
 
 
 
 
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 OFF TOPIC - HUMOR -Fw: Police Stop......

"Don Peters" <dpeters4140@wideopenwest.com> Jan 11 09:22AM -0500  

From: Mike Guss
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:54 AM
To: danrittman ; David Collardey ; dpeters ; g hamo ; George T Zemnickas ; gil ; JEJJ ; john tucker
Subject: FW: Police Stop......
 
 
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 Cross Exam of Toxicologist Rachel Perez

"Don Peters" <dpeters4140@wideopenwest.com> Jan 11 09:02AM -0500  

I'll forward this to him but it's possible that he is on it and doesn't know it, just like I didn't know I was on it. Thanx.
 
 
From: William J. Maze
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:00 AM ...more

 US Supreme Court refuses to hear gun-medical marijuana case

jesse williams <criminalhelp@gmail.com> Jan 11 08:07AM -0500  

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eric VanDussen <ericlvandussen@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:38 AM
Subject: US Supreme Court refuses to hear gun-medical marijuana case
To: ...more

 Oakland sheriff's office moves to fire deputy in DUI case | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Neil Rockind <neil@rockindpc.com> Jan 11 08:03AM -0500  

If anyone has a case with this Deputy, she won't be coming to court much unless, that is, for his own case.
 
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 Off Topic: 14 Apps for Smart Phone or Tablet

Hvbrfcaswiltravl@aol.com Jan 11 07:29AM -0500  

14 Awesome Apps for Your New Smart Phone or Tablet that You Should Love
Posted By _Dr. Mercola _
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