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Re: BOI Docs
I'm not sure what weight, if any, Sullivan's recommendation carries. He is a recovering alcoholic. When you walk around with a hammer you start to see nails everywhere. To him every problem that includes alcohol is alcohol related. This isn't the answer you're looking for. Being real is important. I will not have you discuss alcohol problems if you don't feel you have one. To the extent that you're attending AA and find it beneficial is great. If I feel it's relevant, we'll bring it in. If it isn't then I won't. Sullivan has no say in this.
Haytham Faraj
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On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:11 PM, "Rowe Maj Carlos O" <carlos.rowe@usmc.mil> wrote:
> Actually, I have stopped drinking and I'm also attending some AA meetings although I don't see how that's going to affect or change how the BOI members vote my case....
>
> AA is just that an anonymous organization. Their goal is assist its members to achieve sobriety. My attendance is my attempt to gain a greater perspective on the impacts drinking has had on my life.
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> I'm not doing this to affect the outcome, but assist me in recognizing (and understanding) the perils of drinking and the related affects of the disease (alcoholism).
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> There is no course completion for AA and there is no documentation for attendance. I'm meeting people who have shared their stories which span decades. Just today, someone shared their story with me of being alcohol free for 24 years and mentioned the day to day struggle that it entails.
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> There is no magic bullet, there is no special formula. While it amazes me the push from you and LtCol Sullivan to freely admit to being an alcoholic, I also have gained an appreciation from my attendance some similarities within myself and others that attend. However, there are also vast differences.
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> The appreciation I'm gaining is for my edification. If any second (or third) order effects occurs which positively impact my case, then great. If the members ask (or anyone else for that matter), I will answer accordingly. If either of you (as my representatives) feel free to share that, then be my guest.
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> Other than that, as a matter of my personal life, the manner in which I choose to improve myself is a matter of choice (in my opinion).
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> However and for the record, I will continue to attend actually just because I like the way the meetings are structured and conducted.
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> If you can share with me your thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it. It appears to me that either you agree with LtCol Sullivan or you want to appease him to the maximum extent possible.
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> Please advise!
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> S/F
>
> Major Carlos Rowe
> Deputy G-6
> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
> 15303 Andrews Road
> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
> Office: 816-843-3487
> Cell: 816-896-8595
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hur Capt Christian P
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 19:09
> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O; 'Haytham Faraj'; 'rowec_atl@yahoo.com'
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: BOI Docs
>
> Sir,
>
> I really like your letter. My advice right now is to prepare some material that indicates some successful AA treatment (either ongoing or completed) or at least some statement that you have stopped drinking, etc.
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>
>
> Christian P. Hur
> Captain, USMC
> Senior Defense Counsel
> Telephone: (619) 524-8713
> Fax: (619) 524-6784
> Address: Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 92140
>
> This email may contain Attorney Work Product. Please delete if you received
> this message in error.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rowe Maj Carlos O
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 14:48
> To: Hur Capt Christian P; 'Haytham Faraj'; 'rowec_atl@yahoo.com'
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: BOI Docs
>
> Alcon:
>
> My first draft of my statement is attached. It is merely a rough first cut as I continue to refine my thoughts and how I want to convey them.
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> Additionally, I'm awaiting feedback from some of the BOI character witnesses. These are exclusive of previous statements that I want included going forth.
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> * For the record and not to rock the boat, I do NOT want the GySgt Potter's statement in my package. Let me repeat this again (considering my first request was overlooked prior to the NJP). I do NOT want the GySgt Potter's statement in my package. With that said, if anyone has re-interviewed him, then I will definitely reconsider.
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> ** Other points to consider: Chris Burgess has since resigned his position and is now living / working in the Southern California area. Would definitely like to have him present (if possible and to testify). MSgt Hounshell is also a key witness and both can shed light on command climate / events leading to this situation. Both were unable to testify during the NJP.
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> Thanks again. I also would like to speak off-line at some point. I have changed my DTS request to reflect arriving Wednesday night the 19th and remaining until Monday afternoon the 24th. I can adjust for an earlier departure if required.
>
>
> Major Carlos Rowe
> Deputy G-6
> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
> 15303 Andrews Road
> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
> Office: 816-843-3487
> Cell: 816-896-8595
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hur Capt Christian P
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:32
> To: Haytham Faraj; Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
>
> Haytham, the attached pdf is the only request I've sent to date (see pdf).
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> We could ask for the witnesses that we were going to for the 32, but at this stage I think it's better if we just ask for good military character witnesses. See attached word document.
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> Please edit as needed and/or let me know its good to send out.
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> Regarding the board members:
>
> Col Kasperski is the MCRD G4. He has told me after a previous BOI that he puts a lot of stock in officers that man up to their faults and fall on their sword and I've never seen him award an OTH when he's been a member.
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> LtCol Trapp is in the G3 at MCRD. He is an 0302 and was a former infantry battalion commander that saw combat in Iraq. He has a burn scar from an accident as a child, not from combat. He is firm, but fair. He was Capt Wacker's mentor/supervisor at MCRD. He calls things the way they are and is an independent thinker.
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> LtCol Woods...don't know him. He is the assistant chief of staff for recruiting.
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>
> Christian P. Hur
> Captain, USMC
> Senior Defense Counsel
> Telephone: (619) 524-8713
> Fax: (619) 524-6784
> Address: Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 92140
>
> This email may contain Attorney Work Product. Please delete if you received this message in error.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haytham Faraj [mailto:haytham@puckettfaraj.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:55
> To: Hur Capt Christian P; Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
>
> Chris,
> Did you submit that discovery and witness request? Can we try to get some intel on the officers of the Board? Please get me their MOSs and any information on their careers including duty assignments and deployments.
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> Maj Rowe. I recommend that you begin to work on your statement. Contrition for poor judgment works better than defiance. That said, do not express contrition for something you did not do or are not responsible for.
>
> s/f
> Haytham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hur Capt Christian P [mailto:christian.hur@usmc.mil]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:11 PM
> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com; haytham@puckettfaraj.com
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: FW: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
>
> Gentlemen, FYI. See PDF. I know both LtCol Trapp and Col Kasperski. Both really good and fair officers. This is good for your BOI Sir.
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> Regarding witnesses we want, see below and attached word document. Whom do we want? Thanks.
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