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RE: Meeting tomorrow -Thursday- at MCRD at 1400



I'm in court tomorrow gentlemen.  Sorry.  I'll call Haytham tonight.

Christian P. Hur
Captain, USMC
Senior Defense Counsel
Telephone:  (619) 524-8713
Fax:  (619) 524-6784
Address:  Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 92140

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-----Original Message-----
From: Haytham Faraj [mailto:haytham@puckettfaraj.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:53
To: Rowe Maj Carlos O
Cc: Hur Capt Christian P; rowec_atl@yahoo.com; Grey Capt Nicholas R
Subject: Meeting tomorrow -Thursday- at MCRD at 1400

Gentlemen,
Are you all available to meet tomorrow at 1400?  I would like to have the
meeting in Capt Hur's office.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rowe Maj Carlos O [mailto:carlos.rowe@usmc.mil] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:47 PM
To: Haytham
Cc: Hur Capt Christian P; rowec_atl@yahoo.com; Grey Capt Nicholas R
Subject: RE: BOI Docs

Fully concur with the below.  

Capt Grey:  Thanks for the assist and info, but I'm holding the fort on this
one as stated in my original statement and Haytham's comments below.

I'm attaching my statement (along with the enclosure) because our scanning
capability is down.  However, I will arrive with signed copies for inclusion
in my package.

As of now, my flight is scheduled for departure Wed morning.  However, be
advised severe weather is forecasted so hopefully I can get out.

In the event my flight is cancelled, I will be in immediate contact.

S/F


Major Carlos Rowe
Deputy G-6
Marine Corps Mobilization Command
15303 Andrews Road
Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
Office: 816-843-3487
Cell: 816-896-8595


-----Original Message-----
From: Haytham [mailto:haytham@puckettfaraj.com]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 14:00
To: Rowe Maj Carlos O
Cc: Hur Capt Christian P; <rowec_atl@yahoo.com>; Grey Capt Nicholas R
Subject: Re: BOI Docs

I'm not sure what weight, if any, Sullivan's recommendation carries. He is a
recovering alcoholic. When you walk around with a hammer you start to see
nails everywhere. To him every problem that includes alcohol is alcohol
related. This isn't the answer you're looking for. Being real is important.
I will not have you discuss alcohol problems if you don't feel you have one.
To the extent that you're attending AA and find it beneficial is great. If I
feel it's relevant, we'll bring it in. If it isn't then I won't. Sullivan
has no say in this. 

Haytham Faraj
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:11 PM, "Rowe Maj Carlos O" <carlos.rowe@usmc.mil>
wrote:

> Actually, I have stopped drinking and I'm also attending some AA meetings
although I don't see how that's going to affect or change how the BOI
members vote my case....
> 
> AA is just that an anonymous organization.  Their goal is assist its
members to achieve sobriety.  My attendance is my attempt to gain a greater
perspective on the impacts drinking has had on my life.
> 
> I'm not doing this to affect the outcome, but assist me in recognizing
(and understanding) the perils of drinking and the related affects of the
disease (alcoholism).
> 
> There is no course completion for AA and there is no documentation for
attendance.  I'm meeting people who have shared their stories which span
decades.  Just today, someone shared their story with me of being alcohol
free for 24 years and mentioned the day to day struggle that it entails.
> 
> There is no magic bullet, there is no special formula.  While it amazes me
the push from you and LtCol Sullivan to freely admit to being an alcoholic,
I also have gained an appreciation from my attendance some similarities
within myself and others that attend.  However, there are also vast
differences.  
> 
> The appreciation I'm gaining is for my edification.  If any second (or
third) order effects occurs which positively impact my case, then great.  If
the members ask (or anyone else for that matter), I will answer accordingly.
If either of you (as my representatives) feel free to share that, then be my
guest.
> 
> Other than that, as a matter of my personal life, the manner in which I
choose to improve myself is a matter of choice (in my opinion).
> 
> However and for the record, I will continue to attend actually just
because I like the way the meetings are structured and conducted.
> 
> If you can share with me your thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.  It
appears to me that either you agree with LtCol Sullivan or you want to
appease him to the maximum extent possible.
> 
> Please advise!
> 
> S/F
> 
> Major Carlos Rowe
> Deputy G-6
> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
> 15303 Andrews Road
> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
> Office: 816-843-3487
> Cell: 816-896-8595
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hur Capt Christian P
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 19:09
> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O; 'Haytham Faraj'; 'rowec_atl@yahoo.com'
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: BOI Docs
> 
> Sir,
> 
> I really like your letter.  My advice right now is to prepare some
material that indicates some successful AA treatment (either ongoing or
completed) or at least some statement that you have stopped drinking, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Christian P. Hur
> Captain, USMC
> Senior Defense Counsel
> Telephone:  (619) 524-8713
> Fax:  (619) 524-6784
> Address:  Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 
> 92140
> 
> This email may contain Attorney Work Product.  Please delete if you 
> received this message in error.
>   
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rowe Maj Carlos O
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 14:48
> To: Hur Capt Christian P; 'Haytham Faraj'; 'rowec_atl@yahoo.com'
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: BOI Docs
> 
> Alcon:
> 
> My first draft of my statement is attached.  It is merely a rough first
cut as I continue to refine my thoughts and how I want to convey them.
> 
> Additionally, I'm awaiting feedback from some of the BOI character
witnesses.  These are exclusive of previous statements that I want included
going forth.
> 
> * For the record and not to rock the boat, I do NOT want the GySgt
Potter's statement in my package.  Let me repeat this again (considering my
first request was overlooked prior to the NJP).  I do NOT want the GySgt
Potter's statement in my package.  With that said, if anyone has
re-interviewed him, then I will definitely reconsider.
> 
> ** Other points to consider:  Chris Burgess has since resigned his
position and is now living / working in the Southern California area.  Would
definitely like to have him present (if possible and to testify).  MSgt
Hounshell is also a key witness and both can shed light on command climate /
events leading to this situation.  Both were unable to testify during the
NJP.   
> 
> Thanks again.  I also would like to speak off-line at some point.  I have
changed my DTS request to reflect arriving Wednesday night the 19th and
remaining until Monday afternoon the 24th.  I can adjust for an earlier
departure if required.  
> 
> 
> Major Carlos Rowe
> Deputy G-6
> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
> 15303 Andrews Road
> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
> Office: 816-843-3487
> Cell: 816-896-8595
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hur Capt Christian P
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:32
> To: Haytham Faraj; Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
> 
> Haytham,  the attached pdf is the only request I've sent to date (see
pdf).  
> 
> We could ask for the witnesses that we were going to for the 32, but at
this stage I think it's better if we just ask for good military character
witnesses.  See attached word document.
> 
> Please edit as needed and/or let me know its good to send out.
> 
> Regarding the board members:
> 
> Col Kasperski is the MCRD G4.  He has told me after a previous BOI that he
puts a lot of stock in officers that man up to their faults and fall on
their sword and I've never seen him award an OTH when he's been a member.
> 
> LtCol Trapp is in the G3 at MCRD.  He is an 0302 and was a former infantry
battalion commander that saw combat in Iraq.  He has a burn scar from an
accident as a child, not from combat.  He is firm, but fair.  He was Capt
Wacker's mentor/supervisor at MCRD.  He calls things the way they are and is
an independent thinker.
> 
> LtCol Woods...don't know him.  He is the assistant chief of staff for
recruiting.  
> 
> 
> Christian P. Hur
> Captain, USMC
> Senior Defense Counsel
> Telephone:  (619) 524-8713
> Fax:  (619) 524-6784
> Address:  Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 
> 92140
> 
> This email may contain Attorney Work Product.  Please delete if you
received this message in error.
>   
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haytham Faraj [mailto:haytham@puckettfaraj.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:55
> To: Hur Capt Christian P; Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
> 
> Chris,
> Did you submit that discovery and witness request?  Can we try to get some
intel on the officers of the Board?  Please get me their MOSs and any
information on their careers including duty assignments and deployments. 
> 
> Maj Rowe.  I recommend that you begin to work on your statement.
Contrition for poor judgment works better than defiance.  That said, do not
express contrition for something you did not do or are not responsible for.

> 
> s/f
> Haytham
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hur Capt Christian P [mailto:christian.hur@usmc.mil]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:11 PM
> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com; haytham@puckettfaraj.com
> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: FW: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
> 
> Gentlemen, FYI.  See PDF.  I know both LtCol Trapp and Col Kasperski.
Both really good and fair officers.  This is good for your BOI Sir.
> 
> Regarding witnesses we want, see below and attached word document.  Whom
do we want?  Thanks.  
> 
> 

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