Re: Meeting tomorrow -Thursday- at MCRD at 1400

[Carlos Rowe <rowec_atl@yahoo.com>]

Enroute as we speak.  No problem with 1400.

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Haytham Faraj <haytham@puckettfaraj.com> wrote:

> Gentlemen,
> Are you all available to meet tomorrow at 1400?  I would like to have the
> meeting in Capt Hur's office.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rowe Maj Carlos O [mailto:carlos.rowe@usmc.mil] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:47 PM
> To: Haytham
> Cc: Hur Capt Christian P; rowec_atl@yahoo.com; Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: RE: BOI Docs
> 
> Fully concur with the below.  
> 
> Capt Grey:  Thanks for the assist and info, but I'm holding the fort on this
> one as stated in my original statement and Haytham's comments below.
> 
> I'm attaching my statement (along with the enclosure) because our scanning
> capability is down.  However, I will arrive with signed copies for inclusion
> in my package.
> 
> As of now, my flight is scheduled for departure Wed morning.  However, be
> advised severe weather is forecasted so hopefully I can get out.
> 
> In the event my flight is cancelled, I will be in immediate contact.
> 
> S/F
> 
> 
> Major Carlos Rowe
> Deputy G-6
> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
> 15303 Andrews Road
> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
> Office: 816-843-3487
> Cell: 816-896-8595
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haytham [mailto:haytham@puckettfaraj.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 14:00
> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O
> Cc: Hur Capt Christian P; <rowec_atl@yahoo.com>; Grey Capt Nicholas R
> Subject: Re: BOI Docs
> 
> I'm not sure what weight, if any, Sullivan's recommendation carries. He is a
> recovering alcoholic. When you walk around with a hammer you start to see
> nails everywhere. To him every problem that includes alcohol is alcohol
> related. This isn't the answer you're looking for. Being real is important.
> I will not have you discuss alcohol problems if you don't feel you have one.
> To the extent that you're attending AA and find it beneficial is great. If I
> feel it's relevant, we'll bring it in. If it isn't then I won't. Sullivan
> has no say in this. 
> 
> Haytham Faraj
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 13, 2011, at 1:11 PM, "Rowe Maj Carlos O" <carlos.rowe@usmc.mil>
> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, I have stopped drinking and I'm also attending some AA meetings
> although I don't see how that's going to affect or change how the BOI
> members vote my case....
>> 
>> AA is just that an anonymous organization.  Their goal is assist its
> members to achieve sobriety.  My attendance is my attempt to gain a greater
> perspective on the impacts drinking has had on my life.
>> 
>> I'm not doing this to affect the outcome, but assist me in recognizing
> (and understanding) the perils of drinking and the related affects of the
> disease (alcoholism).
>> 
>> There is no course completion for AA and there is no documentation for
> attendance.  I'm meeting people who have shared their stories which span
> decades.  Just today, someone shared their story with me of being alcohol
> free for 24 years and mentioned the day to day struggle that it entails.
>> 
>> There is no magic bullet, there is no special formula.  While it amazes me
> the push from you and LtCol Sullivan to freely admit to being an alcoholic,
> I also have gained an appreciation from my attendance some similarities
> within myself and others that attend.  However, there are also vast
> differences.  
>> 
>> The appreciation I'm gaining is for my edification.  If any second (or
> third) order effects occurs which positively impact my case, then great.  If
> the members ask (or anyone else for that matter), I will answer accordingly.
> If either of you (as my representatives) feel free to share that, then be my
> guest.
>> 
>> Other than that, as a matter of my personal life, the manner in which I
> choose to improve myself is a matter of choice (in my opinion).
>> 
>> However and for the record, I will continue to attend actually just
> because I like the way the meetings are structured and conducted.
>> 
>> If you can share with me your thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.  It
> appears to me that either you agree with LtCol Sullivan or you want to
> appease him to the maximum extent possible.
>> 
>> Please advise!
>> 
>> S/F
>> 
>> Major Carlos Rowe
>> Deputy G-6
>> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
>> 15303 Andrews Road
>> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
>> Office: 816-843-3487
>> Cell: 816-896-8595
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hur Capt Christian P
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 19:09
>> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O; 'Haytham Faraj'; 'rowec_atl@yahoo.com'
>> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
>> Subject: RE: BOI Docs
>> 
>> Sir,
>> 
>> I really like your letter.  My advice right now is to prepare some
> material that indicates some successful AA treatment (either ongoing or
> completed) or at least some statement that you have stopped drinking, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christian P. Hur
>> Captain, USMC
>> Senior Defense Counsel
>> Telephone:  (619) 524-8713
>> Fax:  (619) 524-6784
>> Address:  Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 
>> 92140
>> 
>> This email may contain Attorney Work Product.  Please delete if you 
>> received this message in error.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rowe Maj Carlos O
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 14:48
>> To: Hur Capt Christian P; 'Haytham Faraj'; 'rowec_atl@yahoo.com'
>> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
>> Subject: BOI Docs
>> 
>> Alcon:
>> 
>> My first draft of my statement is attached.  It is merely a rough first
> cut as I continue to refine my thoughts and how I want to convey them.
>> 
>> Additionally, I'm awaiting feedback from some of the BOI character
> witnesses.  These are exclusive of previous statements that I want included
> going forth.
>> 
>> * For the record and not to rock the boat, I do NOT want the GySgt
> Potter's statement in my package.  Let me repeat this again (considering my
> first request was overlooked prior to the NJP).  I do NOT want the GySgt
> Potter's statement in my package.  With that said, if anyone has
> re-interviewed him, then I will definitely reconsider.
>> 
>> ** Other points to consider:  Chris Burgess has since resigned his
> position and is now living / working in the Southern California area.  Would
> definitely like to have him present (if possible and to testify).  MSgt
> Hounshell is also a key witness and both can shed light on command climate /
> events leading to this situation.  Both were unable to testify during the
> NJP.   
>> 
>> Thanks again.  I also would like to speak off-line at some point.  I have
> changed my DTS request to reflect arriving Wednesday night the 19th and
> remaining until Monday afternoon the 24th.  I can adjust for an earlier
> departure if required.  
>> 
>> 
>> Major Carlos Rowe
>> Deputy G-6
>> Marine Corps Mobilization Command
>> 15303 Andrews Road
>> Kansas City, MO 64147-1207
>> Office: 816-843-3487
>> Cell: 816-896-8595
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hur Capt Christian P
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:32
>> To: Haytham Faraj; Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com
>> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
>> Subject: RE: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
>> 
>> Haytham,  the attached pdf is the only request I've sent to date (see
> pdf).  
>> 
>> We could ask for the witnesses that we were going to for the 32, but at
> this stage I think it's better if we just ask for good military character
> witnesses.  See attached word document.
>> 
>> Please edit as needed and/or let me know its good to send out.
>> 
>> Regarding the board members:
>> 
>> Col Kasperski is the MCRD G4.  He has told me after a previous BOI that he
> puts a lot of stock in officers that man up to their faults and fall on
> their sword and I've never seen him award an OTH when he's been a member.
>> 
>> LtCol Trapp is in the G3 at MCRD.  He is an 0302 and was a former infantry
> battalion commander that saw combat in Iraq.  He has a burn scar from an
> accident as a child, not from combat.  He is firm, but fair.  He was Capt
> Wacker's mentor/supervisor at MCRD.  He calls things the way they are and is
> an independent thinker.
>> 
>> LtCol Woods...don't know him.  He is the assistant chief of staff for
> recruiting.  
>> 
>> 
>> Christian P. Hur
>> Captain, USMC
>> Senior Defense Counsel
>> Telephone:  (619) 524-8713
>> Fax:  (619) 524-6784
>> Address:  Defense Section, Bldg 12, 1st Floor, MCRD, San Diego, CA 
>> 92140
>> 
>> This email may contain Attorney Work Product.  Please delete if you
> received this message in error.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Haytham Faraj [mailto:haytham@puckettfaraj.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:55
>> To: Hur Capt Christian P; Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com
>> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
>> Subject: RE: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
>> 
>> Chris,
>> Did you submit that discovery and witness request?  Can we try to get some
> intel on the officers of the Board?  Please get me their MOSs and any
> information on their careers including duty assignments and deployments. 
>> 
>> Maj Rowe.  I recommend that you begin to work on your statement.
> Contrition for poor judgment works better than defiance.  That said, do not
> express contrition for something you did not do or are not responsible for.
> 
>> 
>> s/f
>> Haytham
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hur Capt Christian P [mailto:christian.hur@usmc.mil]
>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:11 PM
>> To: Rowe Maj Carlos O; rowec_atl@yahoo.com; haytham@puckettfaraj.com
>> Cc: Grey Capt Nicholas R
>> Subject: FW: APPOINTING ORDER ICO ROWE
>> 
>> Gentlemen, FYI.  See PDF.  I know both LtCol Trapp and Col Kasperski.
> Both really good and fair officers.  This is good for your BOI Sir.
>> 
>> Regarding witnesses we want, see below and attached word document.  Whom
> do we want?  Thanks.  
>> 
>> 
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