Fw: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s

["Don Greenlaw" <dgreenlaw@cox.net>]

Forwarded.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ed Wilbur
To: Don Greenlaw
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s


      Don,
  Hate to be one of extreme Negative feelings, But I would not want Mabus 
within the width of the nation
near me. He shows about as much respect for our Military as does our so 
called leader.


S/F


Gunny Grump




On Jan 14, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Don Greenlaw wrote:


 Forwarded. Bill Fowler is a strong supporter
 of Sgt Hutchins.

 Semper fi,
 Don Greenlaw
 ----- Original Message ----- From: ewfowler@comcast.net
 To: clodagh2911@yahoo.com
 Cc: sandy damitz ; Don Greenlaw
 Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s


 Hi Clo,



 Plus the SecNav has decided that Jan 17 (Tuesday) is the date for awarding 
the Navy Cross, posthumously, to the family of Lance Corporal Donald Hogan 
for his actions in August 2009.
 The ceremony will occur at Camp Pendleton while Wuetrich's trial is 
ongoing.



 I, too, am very cynical about the leadership of the Navy/Marine Corps in 
both the Haditha and Hamdaniya cases.  The timing for Mabus to decide "show 
up" for the award (he personally wanted to do it, according to the article 
in the link below) is beyond suspicion.  It's more evidence of the ongoing 
"thuggery" in Washington and senior military leaders/officers.




 http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/military-camp-pendleton-marine-hero-to-be-awarded-navy-cross/article_b7d0d7c6-f916-5f5f-ae06-051b4086b3ab.html





 If the upcoming decision on Larry's case is not overturn for undue command 
influence (re:  Mabus comments in January 2009) then there is not a UCMJ.



 Bill









 From: "Don Greenlaw" <dgreenlaw@cox.net>
 Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:30:32 AM
 Subject: Fw: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s

 Forwarded.

 Semper fi,
 Don Greenlaw
 ----- Original Message ----- From: Clo Shivnan
 To: Don Greenlaw
 Cc: sandy damitz ; frank albano
 Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:15 PM
 Subject: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s


 Hi Don,

 Re NC Times article by Rick Rogers:
 In observing the Wuterich Cout Martial I have pondered much the same as
 Rogers calls out.  As a civilian I also question how the 8 male jurors can
 reach a fair and impartial decision on Frank's case.  Knowing what we know
 now about the SOFA talks, playing heavily on the sentences of Hutchins,
 Behena and trial of Wuterich, how do we know that the current jurors will 
do
 the right thing and make a decision based on the facts and evidence
 presented, and not succumb to political pressure and make an example out 
of
 Wuterich.  The stench of Undue Command Influence has been all over the
 Hamdania and Haditha cases and that stench still lingers today.  I wish I
 had some faith in the UCMJ but I don't, the 8 jurors may render the 
Wuterich
 verdict but I feel the decision (influence) on which way to vote comes 
from
 DC.

 Coloring my synical  view is the "timing" of the release of the Pee Gate
 video of Marines from 3/2 showering some dead insurgents.  The 3/2 Marines
 have been back in US for some time, some are even out of the Corps, but 
yet
 this video is "released" Wednesday.  Tell me this video and the backlash 
on
 the USMC will not influence a Wuterich decision, I double dog dare you :)


 Here's the article from NC TImes:
 http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/columnists/rogers/rogers-marine-corps-stuck-in-the-s/article_ab67b5f8-7253-5d8a-9e00-3a9df6005599.html

 Slainte,
 Clo


 The definition of Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over but
 expecting different results.