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- From: "Don Greenlaw" <dgreenlaw@cox.net>
- Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 16:27:48 -0800
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Forwarded.
Semper fi,
Don Greenlaw
----- Original Message -----
From: ewfowler@comcast.net
To: Don Greenlaw
Cc: sandy damitz ; Clo Shivnan
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s
Don,
I hope you are correct, but I would not put anything past Mabus; he has
already proven to be a pompous, arrogant, self-serving politician.
Bill
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From: "Don Greenlaw" <dgreenlaw@cox.net>
To: "Clo Shivnan" <clodagh2911@yahoo.com>, ewfowler@comcast.net
Cc: "sandy damitz" <lilsolitaire@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:33:58 PM
Subject: Re: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s
Clo & Bill: I don't think the gent in question
is stupid enough to do what is
outlined below, although there
is no telling. He did a great injustice
to the Pendleton 8 in Nov '07, when he
sounded off to the press. At that time,
he had 3 other fine Marines from the
Pendleton 8 squad discharged with
General Discharges, which they didn't
deserve. They should have received
Honorable Discharges. If I were the
parent of any of those Pendleton 8
Marines, now would be a good time
to show up at CamPen and request
an audience with this gent.
Semper fi,
Don Greenlaw
----- Original Message -----
From: Clo Shivnan
To: ewfowler@comcast.net
Cc: Don Greenlaw ; sandy damitz
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s
Hi Bill,
I thought the same thing when I heard that Mabus was going to be
presenting the award, too suspicious and coincidental. My theory on
coincidences - they take quite a lot of planning!
I have a sick feeling in my gut that Mabus will casually pay a visit to
the Command ares of those Marines sitting on the jury and have a "little
talk" with their CO's, not to mention meeting with the Judge and persecution
trying Franks case just to how their career paths are going. There is no
reason for the case against Wuterich to go forward and yet it is, which
makes no sense what soever so then the motive has to be political and thus
at Pentagon or State.
LCpl Hogan was in 1/5. We will see how the verdict goes for Wuterich.
Also, Lt Gen Waldheuser, Camp Pendleton based, is leading up the
investigation on Pee Gate. News reports said that the Marines involved are
lawyering up and refuse to talk to NCIS - wise decisions on their part.
There is not enough perfume to be worn that can cover up the stench of
injustice or UCI.
Slainte,
Clo
The definition of Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over but
expecting different results.
From: "ewfowler@comcast.net" <ewfowler@comcast.net>
To: clodagh2911@yahoo.com
Cc: sandy damitz <lilsolitaire@hotmail.com>; Don Greenlaw
<dgreenlaw@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s
Hi Clo,
Plus the SecNav has decided that Jan 17 (Tuesday) is the date for awarding
the Navy Cross, posthumously, to the family of Lance Corporal Donald Hogan
for his actions in August 2009.
The ceremony will occur at Camp Pendleton while Wuetrich's trial is
ongoing.
I, too, am very cynical about the leadership of the Navy/Marine Corps in
both the Haditha and Hamdaniya cases. The timing for Mabus to decide "show
up" for the award (he personally wanted to do it, according to the article
in the link below) is beyond suspicion. It's more evidence of the ongoing
"thuggery" in Washington and senior military leaders/officers.
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/military/military-camp-pendleton-marine-hero-to-be-awarded-navy-cross/article_b7d0d7c6-f916-5f5f-ae06-051b4086b3ab.html
If the upcoming decision on Larry's case is not overturn for undue command
influence (re: Mabus comments in January 2009) then there is not a UCMJ.
Bill
From: "Don Greenlaw" <dgreenlaw@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:30:32 AM
Subject: Fw: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s
Forwarded.
Semper fi,
Don Greenlaw
----- Original Message -----
From: Clo Shivnan
To: Don Greenlaw
Cc: sandy damitz ; frank albano
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:15 PM
Subject: ROGERS: Marine Corps stuck in the 1970s
Hi Don,
Re NC Times article by Rick Rogers:
In observing the Wuterich Cout Martial I have pondered much the same as
Rogers calls out. As a civilian I also question how the 8 male jurors can
reach a fair and impartial decision on Frank's case. Knowing what we know
now about the SOFA talks, playing heavily on the sentences of Hutchins,
Behena and trial of Wuterich, how do we know that the current jurors will
do
the right thing and make a decision based on the facts and evidence
presented, and not succumb to political pressure and make an example out
of
Wuterich. The stench of Undue Command Influence has been all over the
Hamdania and Haditha cases and that stench still lingers today. I wish I
had some faith in the UCMJ but I don't, the 8 jurors may render the
Wuterich
verdict but I feel the decision (influence) on which way to vote comes
from
DC.
Coloring my synical view is the "timing" of the release of the Pee Gate
video of Marines from 3/2 showering some dead insurgents. The 3/2 Marines
have been back in US for some time, some are even out of the Corps, but
yet
this video is "released" Wednesday. Tell me this video and the backlash
on
the USMC will not influence a Wuterich decision, I double dog dare you :)
Here's the article from NC TImes:
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/columnists/rogers/rogers-marine-corps-stuck-in-the-s/article_ab67b5f8-7253-5d8a-9e00-3a9df6005599.html
Slainte,
Clo
The definition of Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over but
expecting different results.